In the manners of the old British upper class, homosexuality, when practiced at all, was seen as something properly limited to the realm of a youthful indiscretion.


Of course, zhai2nan2 and Baloo and I are not the only manospherians who watch anime.

Erudite Knight might return to regular posting at:
http://eruditeknight.wordpress.com/

And of course, we still have a faithful correspondent blogging his reactions (pun not intended) to Rail Wars at:
http://rightwingotaku.wordpress.com/

The Anti-Democracy Activist is an anime-viewer who has some ruminations at:

http://antidem.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/on-homosexuality-and-uranus/

He made some very interesting points about socio-economic status in Britain and ancient Athens:

it should be said that the attitude towards homosexuality that I have described was exclusively an upper-class one, both in that the lower classes did not share it and in that the upper classes did not believe that the lower classes should share it

which ties into some things that zhai2nan2 wrote at:

The sum of this evidence, together with the association
of pederasty with upper-class venues like
the symposium and wrestling school, suggests that
it was primarily an upper-class phenomenon, at
least in Athens; only men with a certain amount
of wealth, leisure, and education were in a position to
provide boys with the attention and courtship gifts
they might expect, whether tangible or intangible.
The majority of Greek men lived close to the
subsistence level and had neither the time nor the
wherewithal for such pursuits.

https://vultureofcritique.wordpress.com/?p=3583

But I think the Anti-democracy Activist might be white-washing the British degenerates when he writes:

In the manners of the old British upper class, homosexuality, when practiced at all, was seen as something properly limited to the realm of a youthful indiscretion.

A bit of schoolboy buggery at Eton or Harrow was treated with a wink and a nod, and not spoken of in polite company either in school or after graduation. It was not expected to be a lifestyle that one engaged in forever, much less a political cause. It was a thing one grew out of – the idea of being 45 years old and still “gay” (a term that would have been near-incomprehensible to them) would have been seen as being utterly ridiculous.

The proposed narrative is that the British were straight and narrow until those damnable schools, like Eton and Oxford, somehow induced an acceptance of unnatural vice.

I suspect that this is giving the British ruling classes too much credit. Currently it seems that the British elites – and other international elites – are running child abuse rings. There is no reason to believe that the British elites haven’t been doing similar things for many hundreds of years.

Thus even before Eton was founded in 1440, even before St. Edmund Hall was founded in 1226, the British elites may have grown up with perversion and retained perverse behaviors well into old age.

Perhaps the problem was not that young schoolboys got crushes on older schoolboys. Perhaps the problem was that old British men were abusing younger schoolboys and blaming it on older schoolboys.

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6 Responses to In the manners of the old British upper class, homosexuality, when practiced at all, was seen as something properly limited to the realm of a youthful indiscretion.

  1. Bob Wallace says:

    The upper-class English schools produced fags and traitors – sometimes both in the same pervert.

  2. elsid says:

    the link says no page found when you click on it.

  3. elsid says:

    https://vultureofcritique.wordpress.com/?p=3583

    the link above that should route to an old post from zhainan iam guessing.

  4. Wait how’d I get linked? @_@ Reactions to what? D:

    -runs around in some pretend panic-

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