Disregard adrenochrome and focus on Pizzagate: Loretta Lynch used an ancestor’s name as an alias and Alefantis is a Rothschild

Voat starts the explanation with this:

submitted 15 hours ago by SoSpricyHotDog

Seems like the folks @ 4Chan /pol dug up a nice little nugget:


Yeah… so, this “Elizabeth Carlisle” doesn’t actually show up as a DOJ employee. FOIA’s submitted. Feel free to submit more!

I found this Archived email dump in the thread: https://archive.fo/XqFrz#selection-32757.11-32835.18

Decided to search for “Elizabeth Carlisle” and extracted the following:

Newman, Melanie (OPA) From: Newman, Melanie (OPA) Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:41 PM To: Carlisle, Elizabeth

Subject: FW: DRAFT: Statement/Talking Points Melanie R. Newman Director, Office of Public Affairs U.S. Department of Justice Direct: 202-305-1920 Cel @MelanieDOJ

Franklin, Shirlethia (OAG); Amuluru, Uma (OAG); Lewis, Kevin S. (OPA); Herwig, Paige (OAG); Kadzik, Peter J (OLA) (pkadzik@jmd.usdoj.gov); Cheung, Denise (OAG) Subject: RE: DRAFT: Statement/Talking Points

+Peter, Paige & Denise

So… the recently discovered POSSIBLE alias for AG Lynch, looped in Peter Kadzik…

Significance to Pizzagate?

https://voat.co/v/politics/1389149 & https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2028368 & http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/02/wikileaks-peter-kadzik-leaked-email-investigation-intel-hillary-clinton-campaign/

So… what exactly was in the “DRAFT: Statement/Talking Points”?


This email thread is already being looked into.

It ties Kadzik to Lynch directly if the alias is true. More collusion around the HRC email case = better chance to see more emails

And that links to these:

DOJ Assigns Peter Kadzik to New Clinton Email Investigation: Kadzik is a Close Friend of John Podesta and Married to Woman Who Worked for Bill Clinton (pizzagate)

submitted 6 days ago by HotelCalifornia

DOJ Assigns Peter Kadzik to New Clinton Email Investigation: Kadzik is a Close Friend of John Podesta and Married to Woman Who Worked for Bill Clinton


relates to pizzagate because corruption of justice department

Assistant Attorney General Peter J. Kadzik shared information about the congressional investigation of Hillary Clinton with his friend John Podesta, according to new emails revealed by WikiLeaks.

“There is a HJC oversight hearing today where the head of our Civil Division will testify. Likely to get questions on State Department emails,” he flagged in an email to Podesta on May 19, 2015, with the subject line, “Heads up.”



The most obnoxious spin of the 2016 campaign came this week, as Democrats, their media allies and even President Obama accused the FBI of stacking the election. It’s an extraordinary claim, coming as it does from the same crew that has—we now know—been stacking the election all along in the corridors of the Justice Department.
This is the true November surprise. For four months, FBI Director James Comey has been the public face of the investigation intoHillary Clinton’s email server. He played that role so well, putting the FBI so front and center, that the country forgot about Mr. Comey’s bosses. Revelations this week build the case that President Obama’s politicized Justice Department has been pulling strings and flacking for Mrs. Clinton all along.
One piece of evidence comes from WikiLeaks, in a hacked email between the chairman of the Clinton campaign, John Podesta, and Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik. It was sent in May of 2015 via a private Gmail account, which has become the favored way for Obama employees to hide communications from the public. “Heads up,” Mr. Kadzik warned, informing the campaign about a coming hearing and a recent legal filing about Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

VOAT concludes:

ELIZABETH CARLILE = LIZZIE CARLISLE – Loretta’s maternal grandmother’s birth name (twice married; later Lizzie Bell then finally Lizzie Harris)

LORETTA LYNCH born 1959, Greensboro NC – was using a fake name to conduct illicit business while Attorney General. MULTIPLE crimes here even before you look at what she was DOING. Just using state apparatus with fake names and illegal accounts is imprisonable, and certainly she should be disbarred.


  • Mother – Lorine Lynch (maiden name Harris)
  • Father – Rev Lorenzo Lynch (Lorenza but he called himself Lorenzo)

Here’s proof of Loretta’s parents name: http://imgur.com/a/sV6YOImgur Album

Here’s marriage cert for Lorenzo and Lorine Lynch: http://imgur.com/a/MAEGAImgur Album

Maternal Grandparents

  • MGM – Lizzie Harris (first married name = Bell (Beel), maiden name = Carlisle (alt spellings Carliss / Carlile)
  • MGF – Loveless Harris (alt spellings Lovelace / Loveliss)

Much sleuthing by myself and Redditer https://www.reddit.com/user/queenicarius have discovered the links. Confusion lies in Ancestry.com’s common misinterpretation of name spellings from handwritten certificates and registers.

Its BELL and CARLISLE – definitely!

Turns out Loretta’s maternal grandmother was definitely Lizzie Carlisle as evidenced by her death certificate in 1958 (year before Loretta was born). Lizzie Carlisle married Walter Bell, who died leaving her with 5 children. She remarried Loveless Harris.

Death Cert – Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/ox2VuImgur Album

Now get this – maternal grandparents marriage certificate state her maiden name as LIZZIE CARLISS BEEL (according to ancestry.com) – but this is taken from a hard copy marriage cert which looks to me like LIZZIE CARLILE BELL.

Marriage Cert – Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/GENDeImgur Album

In fact CARLILE is an alternative spelling of the same root surname, others are CARLYLE, CARLISLE. Carlisle is the most common spelling of the name.

CARLISS is not common at all – not even in the top 150,000 most common US surnames. Carlile however is in the top 7,000 (source http://www.pbs.org/pov/apps/thesweetestsound/popularity-index/popindex.php?name=carlile&Submit=Submit)).

On Ancestry.com there are 5,000 records under the surname Carliss for the USA. There are 140,766 under the surname Carlile. That’s 28x more

Look at the marriage cert again. It looks like Carlile or even Carlisle to me but to another person it could look like Carliss. But consider the fact Carlile is a more common surname by an order of magnitude – maybe 1 Carliss for every 28 Carlile’s. So on the balance of probability the name is Carlile.

However all this is irrelevant now we’ve located the Death Cert of Lizzie Harris which CLEARLY shows the birth name as CARLISLE.

So What?!

The chances of this being a coincidence are astronomical. Basically, Loretta thought she was being oh-so-clever by doing business under a fake name to hide her connection. Why would anyone do this if its not something that is illegal or would damage her reputation or career in some way.

So the silly bitch uses her maternal grandmother’s name – LIZZIE CARLISLE.

Even proving her abusing Government email systems with fake accounts, and conducting business without accountability and audit trails, is imprisonable. That’s before you consider what she was actually up to.

We need to weaponise this and spread the word…


Zerohedge wrote:

documents released today by the ACLJ reveal several emails between FBI and DOJ officials concerning the Lynch/Clinton meeting primarily related to how they should go about explaining the train wreck that had just been unwittingly played out on live television courtesy of a local Phoenix affiliate station.  Here is a recap from ACLJ:

The documents we received today from the Department of Justice include several emails from the FBI to DOJ officials concerning the meeting.  One with the subject line “FLAG” was correspondence between FBI officials (Richard Quinn, FBI Media/Investigative Publicity, and Michael Kortan) and DOJ officials concerning “flag[ing] a story . . . about a casual, unscheduled meeting between former president Bill Clinton and the AG.” The DOJ official instructs the FBI to “let me know if you get any questions about this” and provides “[o]ur talkers [DOJ talking points] on this”. The talking points, however are redacted.

Another email to the FBI contains the subject line “security details coordinate between Loretta Lynch/Bill Clinton?”

On July 1, 2016 – just days before our FOIA request – a DOJ email chain under the subject line, “FBI just called,” indicates that the “FBI . . . is looking for guidance” in responding to media inquiries about news reports that the FBI had prevented the press from taking pictures of the Clinton Lynch meeting. The discussion then went off email to several phone calls (of which we are not able to obtain records). An hour later, Carolyn Pokomy of the Office of the Attorney General stated, “I will let Rybicki know.” Jim Rybicki was the Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor to FBI Director Jim Comey. The information that was to be provided to Rybicki is redacted.

Also of note several of the documents contain redactions that are requested “per FBI.”

It is clear that there were multiple records within the FBI responsive to our request and that discussions regarding the surreptitious meeting between then AG Lynch and the husband of the subject of an ongoing FBI criminal investigation reached the highest levels of the FBI.

Then comes a series of emails between DOJ officials and several mainstream media outlets that appear to reveal collusion to effectively ‘kill the story.”


Comment: Loretta Lynch is perhaps an important short-term piece of the conspiracy. However, the infamous “Alefantis” seems to be a much more central piece for long-term investigation.

/pol/ wrote:

the infamous anon Hitler Himself yesterday doxxed James ‘alefantis’ Rothschild addresses and phone numbers
Full Name James A Rothschild
Birth Year 1974



“Benjamin de Rothschild, only son of the late Edmond de Rothschild, was a classic case of great expectations gone astray. Despite being groomed for greatness from a young age, as a teenager he skipped university and instead headed for Los Angeles with dreams of being a film producer. In LA he started taking drugs, and ended up on heroin. Meanwhile, he failed to make it into Hollywood’s charmed circle and bombed as a film-maker.
“Being a Rothschild isn’t enough. You have to prove yourself. The dynastic pressures are virtually inescapable,” commented a friend at the time. However, when his father died, leaving him heir to a fortune of pounds 1.5bn, he was forced to clean up his act. “He is a Rothschild, he either had to win or walk away,” said the friend.”


FYI here is more – 4 daughters of his:
Olivia de Rothschild , born 2 August 2002 in Geneva, IG: olivia_de_roths
Eve de Rothschild , born 5 January 2001 in Geneva, IG: eve.der , fb: /eve.derotschild
Alice de Rothschild , born 2 March 1999 in Geneva, fb: /alice.der IG:alice.der IG2: alicevsrosie
Noémie de Rothschild , born 12 October 1995 in Paris, IG: rotschillipepper, fb: NoemiedeR, linkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noémie-de-r-7a771a76?trk=pub-pbmap

Felix Giguere
IG: felixgiguere – the only son of Benjamin de Rothschild living under fake name,
linkedIN: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/felix-giguere-20675084

Adopted son:
IG: shecallsmeaur

Note that I disagree with the leaker’s belief that adrenochrome is part of this puzzle. The “H*tler” leaker wrote:

[Alefantis’ father]
lives in Alaska – Adrenochrome hotspot
studied Molecular biology Biochemistry and Chemistry – Adrenochrome producing skills

Adrenaline and has to be stored in a cool place like comet ping pongs fridge.
It produces a euphoric high like DMT but is actually healthy for you.
This is also why places like ALASKA and seattle are hubs for trafficking.

See you in 2 weeks 😦

>Good Luck Anons…H*tler Himself

In the first place, there is no evidence that adrenochrome can be used as a drug in real life. Hunter S. Thompson mentioned adrenochrome as a drug in a fictionalized autobiographical account of heavy drug use.

In the second place, there is no reason to believe that adrenochrome research would happen in Alaska just because Alaska is cold. People have liquid nitrogen and various refrigeration systems. These systems require electricity, not naturally cold weather.

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